T Tyler Gates Member Oct 6, 2016 #1 Joined Oct 6, 2016 Messages 9 Likes 0 Age 20 Oct 6, 2016 #1 Hey, you guys, I have been working oni my quad for almost 2 years now and I still can't get the pids down. I am trying to get my quad to do tight rolls, flips, and be the best it can be. Plase, help. Please, all tips are welcome!!!!